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<text>
<title>
Burma: Golden Triangle 'Opium King' Khun Sa Interviewed
</title>
<article>
<hdr>
Foreign Broadcast Information Service, August 7, 1990
Burma: Golden Triangle 'Opium King' Khun Sa Interviewed
</hdr>
<body>
<p>[By Patricia Elliott with Subin Khunkaeo BANGKOK POST in English
29 Jul 90 p 9]
</p>
<p> [Text] He lives in a red brick bungalow hemmed in by a
brilliant tangle of flowers. Khun Sa, opium king of the Golden
Triangle, says gardening is his favourite pastime.
</p>
<p> Looking healthy and relaxed, the general holds court on his
verandah. Normally Khun Sa allows only one hour for interviews
with journalists, but today he is in a good mood. The afternoon
slips by as he gives the BANGKOK POST a well-rehearsed but
occasionally revealing account of his life.
</p>
<p> "I'm not a devil. I don't have wings and I don't have horns
and hooves," Khun Sa insists.
</p>
<p> While US officials have dubbed him the Prince of Death, Khun
Sa prefers comparisons to George Washington. He describes
himself as a nation-builder for the Shan State. The legend is
that George Washington never told a lie. Few outside of his
immediate followers give the same credence to Khun Sa.
</p>
<p> Born in 1934 in Loi Maw township and given the Chinese name
Chang Si-fu, Khun Sa cut his teeth first with the Shan
nationalist movement, then switched sides and led the local Loi
Maw militia, eventually rivalling the Kuomintang in power within
Burma's lawless frontier. Khun Sa's fight with the Kuomintang
(KMT) was interrupted in 1969, when he was captured and jailed
by the Burmese. He was released suddenly in 1974 supposedly in
exchange for Soviet hostages. According to official propaganda,
Khun Sa then "had to wait and while away his time acting as a
playboy to the ever-watchful Burmese Military Intelligence
Service."
</p>
<p> Now Khun Sa has emerged again. In 1985 he brought his Muang
Tai Army [MTA] under the nationalist banner of the Tai
Revolutionary Council, which is fighting for a free Shan State.
Khun Sa describes the 62,500 square mile Shan State, with its
population of 8 million, as a place of anarchy and internecine
warfare egged on by outside interference:
</p>
<p> "Big towns have turned into small villages. Highways have
turned into small tracks. That's why we have to take up arms.
We're not doing it for fun. What we are doing is only to fence
up our house so we can enjoy our own fruits. But it is has
somehow offended other people. I don't know why."
</p>
<p> The offence taken is because of the "fruit". The region's
most profitable fruit is raw opium and, increasingly, refined
opium. A total of 696,700 rai in upper Shan are opium fields
and this year drug enforcement officials predict a bumper crop.
The Muang Tai Army general admits the bulk of his movement's
income comes from opium and heroin.
</p>
<p> You could call it taking a cut from the profits for
protection money. Or you could, in the words of Khun Sa, call it
a legitimate commercial tax taken in by a legitimate, albeit
unrecognised, government.
</p>
<p> But Khun Sa repeatedly claims he wants to end the opium trade
and also that he has the power to do so. In 1977 he told US
government representatives he would phase out opium production
over a six to seven year period in exchange for foreign aid. The
offer still holds but so far there have been no takers.
</p>
<p> "It has taken nearly 14 years now, twice the period of time
that I proposed. Within this period of time, how many more
addicts are there? That's why in 1989 I had to review my old
plan."
</p>
<p> The latest price for the opium crop is US $210 million in UN
assistance, $265 million in foreign investment and $89.5 million
in private aid, to be used to provide crop substitution,
schools, hospitals and other basics of development that the
Shan people lack.
</p>
<p> "Let me put it this way. They can use half of what they've
been using to eradicate opium and give it to the Shan people. We
will eradicate it ourselves," Khun Sa says.
</p>
<p> Why the offer? According to Khun Sa it's all for the good of
mankind. "When I have recovered my country, the 26 races of the
Shan State will rejoice. But if I can free the world from the
menace of opium, then I will do good for the world. I would like
to do that."
</p>
<p> This is Khun Sa's favourite line, repeated to the Press many
times. He even goes further: "I want to help not only the
addicts but also those who are in their mothers' wombs, to
prevent them from becoming addicts."
</p>
<p> But in the meantime he makes it clear that the production
will continue until somebody pays up.
</p>
<p> "In 1988 I told the DEA (US Drug Enforcement Administration):
'You want to eradicate opium, but you don't want to spend your
money.' I'm working for my country and I offer to help them. Why
don't they accept my offer"?
</p>
<p> But critics answer that Khun Sa's offer is not for the good
of mankind, but a form of blackmail. The blackmail would
provide a final quick payout for a declining empire as new opium
routes to India and China diminish the importance of Khun Sa's
territory on the Thai border. Beyond the general's word, there
is no guarantee the development money would not be used for
military purposes--and Khun Sa repeatedly stresses that
political freedom is a precondition for carrying out the
programme.
</p>
<p> But the "independence war" is not focussed on the ruling
junta in Rangoon. "Our real enemy is the successive governments
of Rangoon, but the harm they have done to us so far is only
about 20 percent," says Khun Sa. Recent fighting is against the
United Wa State Army and the Wa National Army. While Khun Sa
maintains the Wa are the arm of Burmese oppression, US
officials view the ongoing conflict as a fight for opium trade
routes.
</p>
<p> "Independence is my concern. But opium production in my
country is your concern," says Khun Sa, deflecting the line of
questioning away from military matters.
</p>
<p> He launches into an attack on DEA officials, an enemy he is
more comfortable discussing. DEA officials use taxpayers' money
to buy houses, cars and concubines, says Khun Sa. "The DEA is
using the people's money. Just let the DEA officials go out and
make their own money. I bet they couldn't feed even one wife if
they had to do it themselves."
</p>
<p> Khun Sa believes the DEA's motives are primarily political--the agency is engaged in covert warfare against liberation
forces. "In the name of anti-narcotics they have hired armies to
attack us. They have used planes to spray our houses and
fields. Because of what they're doing the livelihood of the
people has been destroyed."
</p>
<p> The MTA general points to Manuel Noriega as an example.
</p>
<p> "They called Noriega the King of Cocaine, but what Mr (US
President) Bush did to Noriega was for the right of a waterway.
Here, what does he want?" This seems to be the one question that
truly worries Khun Sa. On March 15 the US indicted Khun Sa for
drug trafficking, the same prelude to Noriega's downfall.
</p>
<p> As the interview draws to a close, Khun Sa is anxious to ask a
question of his own: "After the announcement of the indictment
there has been strong talk of using planes and troops to attack
me. Is this a possibility?" he asks.
</p>
<p> The general ends by ticking off his list of invitations. The
United Nations is welcome to enter his territory any time.
</p>
<p> US officials who would give aid, but secretly, should
approach him through the Thai government. "So far I have heard
only sounds, nothing concrete," he says. In fact, at least one
USAID-funded agency is known to be interested.
</p>
<p> The standing offer is relayed one more time: "I want the
governments to have pity on their own people. Instead of
pursuing a hopeless method, why don't you come and choose the
six to seven year opium eradication plan?"
</p>
<p> What's in it for Khun Sa and his followers?
</p>
<p> "The right to live in our own garden. That's all," he